Queer & Questioning

What happens when two best friends dive into the unspoken truths of queer dating? Pure, unfiltered honesty that's equal parts hilarious and thought-provoking.

Steph and Shellby tackle the question of height preferences in relationships, revealing how their 5'9" and 5'10" statures influence their dating experiences. The conversation uncovers surprising insights about protection dynamics and how heteronormative expectations sometimes infiltrate queer relationships. Both hosts share laughable moments about their partners' reactions to height differences – from tippy-toe kisses to protests when heels make the gap even wider.

The episode takes a serious turn when discussing whether dating someone in the closet is even possible. Drawing from personal experiences, they distinguish between emotional connections with closeted women versus actual dating, concluding that authentic relationships require authenticity from both parties. "Nobody's falling for that," they agree, while acknowledging the legitimate fears that keep people from coming out.

The most controversial segment explores their difficulty understanding bisexuality. With remarkable candor, they admit their limited perspectives while extending an invitation to bisexual listeners to educate them in future episodes. "We're not saying it's not okay, we're saying we don't understand. There's a difference," Shellby clarifies, showcasing their willingness to learn and evolve.

Throughout it all, the rapport between Steph and Shellby creates a uniquely intimate listening experience. Their easy banter and fearless approach to taboo subjects makes you feel like you're eavesdropping on a private conversation between friends – complete with cocktails, curse words, and gut-busting laughter.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Podcast Intro with Steph and Shelby
• 1:35 Dating Preferences: Taller or Shorter Women
• 9:12 Femmes vs. Mascs Dating Dynamics
• 14:45 Dating Someone in the Closet
• 20:13 The Bisexuality Debate
• 25:42 Episode Closing and Bloopers

Transcript

Steph: 0:07

Welcome to let's Communicate the podcast, where queerness needs chaos, honesty needs hilarity and nothing is off limits. I'm your host, steph, and I'm here with my bestie, shelby, and we are diving headfirst into relationships, hot takes and all the things we definitely shouldn't be saying out loud. So grab your Red Bull or your cocktail and let's communicate. How's that? I think that's pretty good.

Shellbz: 0:35

That's okay.

Steph: 0:35

You look sexy as fuck. Thank you, good for you.

Shellbz: 0:38

This is Chelsea's sweater. Yeah, yeah, I was super stoked that I could fit into it. Okay, I was like I'm could fit into it, can't. Okay. I was like I'm going to steal this today. Okay.

Steph: 0:47

So, yes, these are the conversation cards, right? So here's the rules on this.

Shellbz: 0:55

Oh, I'm ready.

Steph: 0:55

You got to pluck some cards. How many, who cares? Okay, I grabbed three. That's good, that's good.

Shellbz: 1:05

Let's see what they are, and then we'll see if we want to talk about these things. Femmes Do you prefer to date other femmes or mask? Do you like your women taller or shorter than you?

Steph: 1:22

Is it still gay if you date a trans man?

Shellbz: 1:23

Do we want to talk about any of those?

Steph: 1:27

I'm fine with any of them. Okay, are you fine with any of them? I'm fine with any of them. Okay, cool, okay. So what do you want? Which one? Which one do you want to?

Shellbz: 1:31

start with, let's do. Do you like your women taller or shorter than you?

Steph: 1:35

Okay, we can start with that one. Yeah, I say it's. It's not a great, not a great spot to start. It's not Well. I mean traditionally for me, like, do you want your women taller or shorter than you? Taller for me, but I'm also, you know, 5'9". It's very difficult to get that height. When I first met Kelly, it was like I thought she was the same size as I, was Three inches shorter, just a little shorter, that's okay. But I mean it ended up being fine. She constantly like, makes fun of me, like if I wear any like thing with a heel or anything, like that she's like no, no, no, no.

Shellbz: 2:22

We're not doing that today. No, no, we're not doing that. She's like did no, no, no, we're not doing that today. No, no, we're not doing that.

Steph: 2:25

She's like did you get taller? Maybe I think I did. I think you make me stand taller than what I used to.

Shellbz: 2:34

So obviously it doesn't bother her currently. Did it ever bother her that you were taller than her?

Steph: 2:40

No, no, I don't think so Well, I don't think so well, I don't know. We'd have to ask her, but I'm curious. I think that, like when she first walked in the door, I was like you're the same height as me, and then all of a sudden it was like it's out, I'm a full three inches taller than you, but it's a cute three. It is a cute three inches.

Shellbz: 3:00

I don't know what about you? I prefer women to be shorter than me, obviously yeah that's some bullshit right there I like to just like. It's. One thing I love about Chelsea is because when I'm like hugging her, I can just peck her on the forehead and it's like I don't know, I like it. I can pick her up and throw her around and shit.

Steph: 3:25

Kelly can also pick me up. It makes me super. I always think my head's going to hit that fucking ceiling fan, though that's where the height is a problem. But definitely I could not date someone that was like way shorter, way shorter than me. We're talking like five, four and below, I think I. I'm confident that Kelly is at least five, seven, maybe five, six, five, six, five, seven.

Shellbz: 3:48

She doesn't seem overly short.

Steph: 3:53

No, because I'm. I'm just shy if I've done no. And it depends on what shoes she's wearing too, to depend on like what she's at. But she she definitely like is is miniaturized when I'm wearing my fucking work shoes.

Shellbz: 4:06

I can about imagine.

Steph: 4:06

Yeah, we made a whole TikTok about it. I was like look at how fucking tiny she is.

Shellbz: 4:11

I can't, I don't. I hate to be like that to say that I can't, I have, but it wasn't like my favorite To date someone taller than you.

Steph: 4:21

Yeah, Like you're fucking tall too.

Shellbz: 4:23

I'm just shy of 5'10". Yeah, so I dated one girl that was maybe around the same, maybe an inch taller, and even that was like too much. But I think that's primarily just because I like to feel like I'm like protecting them. I guess in a way Is that like a mask thing. I don't know if it's an all mask thing, but it's definitely a thing for me. I like to be able to, like I don't know, make her feel safe and shit I don't know.

Steph: 4:56

The very first girlfriend I ever had was like tiny. Yeah, I'm saying five, three like five three yeah. Real low you know, and I immediately went into like mask mode. I don't know why I like I don't understand why that happened. That makes sense though, yeah Well, and then I had, like I lost all my hair, so my hair was like super short and like, and I started wearing these like all boy clothes and like doing all this thing, I'm like I'm like.

Steph: 5:24

This is not me, but I did like fall into that and I think it's kind of just a I don't know. I think we just like normalize things in such a way that it's just like I agree.

Shellbz: 5:38

I was just going to say off of that. I feel like most men feel that way as well. Like they don't typically go for women taller than them. I'm not speaking on behalf of all men, calm down, um but it's the common thing. Yeah, you know, and I think that's probably why because it makes them feel like a protector and stronger, whatever it may be true because I felt like when I dated the woman who was just a, little bit taller than me, I was.

Shellbz: 6:03

I felt like emas dated the woman who was just a little bit taller than me, I was. I felt like emasculated. Yeah, and I didn't like it. Yeah, there was nothing wrong with her as a person, by any means, but it was just one of those things that I wasn't, I don't know, I couldn't do it.

Steph: 6:16

I don't know, I'm, I love Kelly, I love Kelly so much. But yeah, I like, I don't know, like at first I was like, um, I'm not sure here, but we're about.

Steph: 6:28

I mean, no, it's not even close anymore, like it is like no anymore, it's just like in the beginning I think I slouched so much because I was just like so beaten down and just so whatever. But then, like after a while, like she built me the fuck up, you know, and I started like sitting up straight and like I'm like oh shit, yeah, here we go. Here we go. Yeah, I guess I am pretty fucking tall.

Shellbz: 6:56

You are pretty tall, you and I are very close.

Steph: 6:58

Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I like to like poke fun at everyone.

Shellbz: 7:08

You have to, especially because it's one of those things that's not typical for you.

Steph: 7:10

It helps you be okay with it. It does, it does yeah.

Shellbz: 7:12

You got to find the humor in it. She's adorable though.

Steph: 7:14

I love my little baby mask.

Shellbz: 7:17

You'll have to ask her if it's ever bothered her. I am curious.

Steph: 7:20

No, it definitely has, really, I know, you know, for sure it has. Oh, yeah, yeah, just because, like, just like because I made that video, I made like a joking video about it, just like because I was in my work shoes and I was like, look at how four inches taller poor kelly. Yeah, no, she's standing on her tippy.

Shellbz: 7:44

He's trying to give you a kiss. She really does.

Steph: 7:45

She's so cute though she's standing on her tippies trying to give you a kiss she really does she's so cute though it's like you're not that much taller so one of those moments where she's like I want uppies.

Shellbz: 8:00

listen, if I could have my fam give me uppies, I totally, totally would do it. I'd be all fucking for that shit she said I had to start lifting her up.

Steph: 8:07

I'm like that's not possible. I would like to try. However, I am very scared.

Shellbz: 8:15

You can do it Probably, I'm not going to Hold her like a baby?

Steph: 8:19

Yeah, she did say I have to pick her up, but you can do it.

Shellbz: 8:27

I don't want to, she's so tiny, so easy to pick her up. Anyway, changing subjects. Okay, this is um, I can't answer this. So it says femmes, dot dot dot. Do you prefer to date other femmes or mask?

Steph: 8:41

I don't have a type, so I have zero types. I have dated both. I don't know if I like, necessarily like, prefer one of the other, but I do fall into like the opposite role of whatever someone else is playing. Like if someone else is coming at me as a mask, I will fall into like the femme role. Sure, but for not not very long though, because I'm a switch, so I will. I will fall into whatever role anyone else needs me to, and I think that's not necessarily a good thing. It's probably a bad thing overall.

Shellbz: 9:17

But I don't think so. Well, ok, it depends on what we're talking about. We're talking like in general life terms. That could potentially be bad if we're talking intimacy terms. I don in general life terms. That could potentially be bad if we're talking in intimacy terms. I don't think that's a bad thing. Um, but yeah, I mean, I have a type for sure. What's your type? Well, obviously, but I was never opposed to dating another. Mask like that didn't like that, wasn't like a meh no thing for real though like, would you well, obviously not now.

Shellbz: 9:45

Well, no, but like if they were. I feel like if it was a mask with more feminine, like facial features and those sorts of qualities, then I'd be, that'd be fine yeah, I don't care yeah I don't care I don't care either way.

Steph: 9:59

um, either way, I'm good. I could not date a like straight girly girl that like I don't think I could ever like do that, just because that's not who I am, so like I would I need to match with you on some sort of level. Like if, uh, if you take more than an hour to do your makeup, like we can't be friends Uh, but yeah, I mean no, it's always like when I have dated friends, like in the past, like it is always like I was just like studied. I'm like, huh, that's a fun way of doing things. Why are you taking so long? You look exactly the same as when you started.

Shellbz: 10:42

But they don't think so no.

Steph: 10:45

How long does it take Chelsea to get ready?

Shellbz: 10:48

Truthfully not very long. Yeah, yeah, Because I mean I think her hair takes longer than her makeup. But I also don't time her because I'm usually standing there staring at her while she does it. Yeah.

Steph: 10:57

So I mean, Kelly was always very happy with me. She's like yeah, you're ready to go in 20 minutes. Shower to ready is 20 minutes. Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty simple.

Shellbz: 11:12

Yeah, chelsea doesn't take super long at all. I mean, she obviously takes her time to make sure that everything looks the way she wants it to, but it's not like an hour in the bathroom, or you know.

Steph: 11:22

Yeah, I couldn't even like fucking imagine. I've never like actually the only person I've ever had experience with this is actually my best friend from like high school is like oh my god, you're taking two hours to fucking get ready.

Shellbz: 11:35

What are you fucking doing really? What are you falling?

Steph: 11:38

are you doing like what takes that long? I'm confused the longest it takes me to get ready is mostly because I like bullshit around and like walk around in circles you get fucking sidetracked or whatever.

Shellbz: 11:49

Yeah, but just to sit in the bathroom and look in the mirror and do all the things for that long, no, I couldn't imagine, never, I don't know. I mean whatever, whatever you gotta do, turn into a completely different person that I wouldn't even recognize at that point for real, like I'm, hop in the shower, throw my hair back like with my fingers, and throw clothes on and I'm good like that's it yeah, kelly loves the fact that she just got a haircut, so she doesn't have to do her hair at all now I just wake up and you can go.

Steph: 12:16

That's always nice, yeah yeah, she's like when the hair is this short, there is no getting ready, it's just ready yep, right, and that part of me misses that I'm contemplating cutting my hair super short again.

Shellbz: 12:26

We'll see, I don't know, I haven't decided. It took me forever to get it to this point. So we'll see, but I definitely I don't know. I'm open to whatever I mean, obviously not now, but prior to. I feel like if you have a connection, a sexual attraction, like it's just kind of whatever.

Steph: 12:46

I don't think it could ever take me longer than yeah, about 20 minutes, yeah, no.

Shellbz: 12:52

Even when I did have long hair and wore makeup, it still didn't take me 20 minutes.

Steph: 12:56

My hair is like the most annoying thing. Ranger gets really excited when I get like, because he likes me to blow dry my hair.

Shellbz: 13:03

Does he like it? He loves it. The blow dry my hair. Does he like? Loves it? The blow the hair dryer, he likes it, or what well?

Steph: 13:06

he likes it, because I flip my hair upside down and then I have to pet him while he's going between my legs, you know it's like this thing, yeah. So every morning he gets super excited, like he's like after I get out of the shower. He's like jumping up and down he knows what excited. Yeah, I love that so much kelly has to like focus on Cooper so he doesn't get jealous.

Shellbz: 13:27

Well see, at least there's two of you now, so they're all taking care of each other, yeah.

Steph: 13:32

It makes me so happy to see how happy my dogs love Kelly.

Shellbz: 13:38

Well, I think they've kind of become her dogs, haven't they? They?

Steph: 13:41

absolutely have. Yeah, they are just traitors at this point. Well, it's because Kelly takes them for walks Like what the fuck?

Shellbz: 13:48

We didn't walk before. What are you doing?

Steph: 13:50

We just had backyard time, yeah we had backyard time, we had tree time.

Shellbz: 13:54

That was pretty much it.

Steph: 13:55

Now we have walkie time, so let's go for a walk every day.

Shellbz: 13:59

They're ready for it, they love it, they do, love it, they do.

Steph: 14:02

They get to see all the things.

Shellbz: 14:04

They may not love it when it's cold, but we haven't experienced cold yet.

Steph: 14:08

We're never going to experience cold.

Shellbz: 14:10

I hate it here.

Steph: 14:11

I do hate it here too. We were just talking about moving it was so bad Somewhere other than Iowa. Yes, yeah.

Shellbz: 14:18

Probably somewhere warm.

Steph: 14:18

The state is just fucking rejecting us all together.

Shellbz: 14:21

so yeah, there. So yeah, I mean the whole country's kind of a shit show we'll get canceled so fast yeah well, maybe not, but I'm not sure they probably already canceled us because we're gays still on spotify.

Steph: 14:34

It's fine, it's okay I know this one. Oh no, oh no. So, shelby, oh fuck, yeah, yep, do you think that you Could you date a woman that is in the closet? Oh no, what do you think?

Shellbz: 14:59

I mean I have Go ahead Okay, but like Elaborate so but like, are you really dating if they're in the closet, nobody can know and you're just fucking behind the scenes.

Steph: 15:10

No.

Shellbz: 15:11

Okay. So I don't know that I ever dated a woman in the closet, but I definitely fucked women in the closet. You know how does that happen? I was.

Steph: 15:27

Like what are you going like if you're dating? Are you going to like their family and you're just like their friend? Like, is that what's happening?

Shellbz: 15:35

Like so when I was seeing a woman who I look back at this now and it makes me feel like a giant piece of shit, but she was married and we were sleeping together Anywhere. We could meet up and nobody could see, nobody could know, but, like over the phone, it was an emotional connection and it felt like dating Right.

Shellbz: 16:02

But I was also really young, so it definitely wasn't dating. There was no going on dates, that wasn't a thing, right. But I was also really young, mm-hmm, so it definitely wasn't dating. There was no going on dates, that wasn't a thing, right, it was just hooking up. That's really all it was, with feelings involved that nobody could fucking know about. Like I said, I feel very fucking bad about it now, but when you're young you do stupid shit.

Shellbz: 16:21

Yeah, so we all do super-chewed when we're out, but I have definitely fooled around with a handful of women that are quote-unquote in the closet, but I don't think it would ever be considered dating.

Steph: 16:35

Yeah, I know I don't see how you could potentially date someone that is in the closet. Yeah, you can't. I don't see that ever like actually being a thing. No-transcript. The only one that is like hiding this at this point is you, honestly.

Steph: 17:22

They're just waiting for you to say it out loud yeah, and how they react to that, that's that's up to them. But no, no, absolutely not. If someone, if someone like actively told me that like they had not come out to like their family, their friends, like their people, and all of a sudden, like I'm being dropped into this situation where no hard pass that sounds awful.

Steph: 17:46

Yeah, fucking awful For one. Nobody's falling for that shit, no one. No, no one is falling for that ever. Like, just just like, fucking, put on your big girl pants and like, yeah, yeah, let's just get through this, okay, because?

Shellbz: 18:03

honestly, and I recognize that, like it's hard for people to do that in certain situations. Yeah, and you know certain circumstances, whether it be religion or whatever, the fuck right usually comes into play and then you don't want to lose your family and whatever I, I get it, but like is it worth your own happiness to stay in there?

Steph: 18:26

no, no, no like it doesn't.

Shellbz: 18:29

It sounds miserable it.

Steph: 18:30

I mean it has to be fucking. I would certainly think so. Fuck I, I, I can't relate because I've never like yeah, I've never like done this before. But, jesus christ, like, how fucking terrible could it be, like, how awful is that to like have to pretend to be somebody else for however amount of time, like, if you are, if you're introducing this person to like your family, your friends, your people, yeah, why are you even taking that step of making that introduction if you're not going to be honest about it? Like, what's the point, what's the point of making that introduction right, if you're not going to be honest about it? Like, what's the point? What's the point of doing?

Shellbz: 19:07

that you need to feel it out. I don't know. I'm only speculating because obviously, like you said, neither one of us have been in that situation specifically. Um, I always I was very blessed with a very accepting family. I initially didn't think they would be but, but they were, so I can't speak on that. But the question at hand I don't think there's any dating a woman in the closet. No, that's just not a thing.

Steph: 19:40

No, I don't think it exists. I don't think I gave my family or my friends like any options, like any option to say that it wasn't OK. No, like you want to be my family, you want to be my friend, like this is who I am. Like take it or leave it. That's the way it is, exactly Like. That's just. That's exactly how it is. That's that's how it's going to be, like take it or leave it, your choice.

Shellbz: 20:05

So One more quick question.

Steph: 20:07

Let's see what happens here.

Shellbz: 20:08

All right, oh Jesus, that's a closer. Oh, would you date a bisexual woman?

Steph: 20:13

No, why? Because in my personal opinion, this is going to be controversial, but in my personal opinion, bisexual women are just women that are in the in-between stage, where they're trying to decide whether or not.

Shellbz: 20:29

Oh yeah, that's definitely going to be controversial.

Steph: 20:31

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's how I feel, like like I personally, like I can't, I don't understand bisexual women at all, like I don't get it, but I do know, like I don't want to get my heart broken by a woman and then her go get with a man. Like I can't, like that is like the worst, like the, the potentially like worst thing that could possibly happen to me.

Steph: 20:56

So feel absolutely if somebody left them for you know the same sex yeah so I mean, I get it from the other side, you know, yeah, uh, it was never really an issue to me I always feel like I have like very like straight edge views on like how these things have to be right, like I always like feel this way and I always loved like talking to like bisexual women that to understand it, yes, but you literally just said, though, that you don't understand it, so that's why you see it that certain way.

Shellbz: 21:30

Not because it's not OK, it's just your personal opinion of not being able to understand it.

Steph: 21:36

Yeah, I don't understand it at all, like I don't. I can't even like, fucking fathom it. I cannot understand how you could like both.

Steph: 22:10

Like because an image of a penis in my brain makes me like sick to my goddamn stomach. So I don't understand how you can put a pussy and a penis next to each other and not pick the pussy. Like I don't get that. It does not, I don't get it, understand that, but it would it never like would deter me from like dating them. You know, yeah, yeah, I always feel like maybe bisexual women have like, maybe they are either straight or bi curious, like they are curious about having sex with a woman and or they've been scorned by a fucking woman yeah, that's scorned like like women loving women, relationships like the wlw relationships, like those heartbreaks are fucking death, so like they hurt, so goddamn bad.

Steph: 22:42

And so, yeah, I can get it. Why, like you, would get your heart broken as a late in life lesbian and then run back to men like I understand that, sure, um, but no, I don't understand.

Shellbz: 22:52

Like liking both, I don't get it because a penis well, and maybe if we have any bisexual listeners, they can send an email in or hop on the discord and send their perspective.

Steph: 23:03

Yeah, they can help us understand.

Shellbz: 23:05

We can understand a little better. We're not saying it's not okay, we're saying we don't understand. There's a difference.

Steph: 23:11

Yeah, don't get it.

Shellbz: 23:13

But I would like to hear from somebody on that.

Steph: 23:16

Oh yeah, I would love to hear this from somebody and not from like. I have heard from several of my friends that now say they're bisexual because they want to have sex with women. But I don't get that shit Like I don't. I don't get it Like you just want to have sex with a woman so you can say that you've had sex with a woman, Like maybe for some that's true.

Steph: 23:38

Maybe, but I think once you have sex with a woman, like you're a lesbian, now, like not going back, like what are you going to go back to At that point, like it's got to be way better.

Shellbz: 23:51

It'd be interesting to hear from somebody, though, OK to give their actual life perspective. Yeah, let's encourage some bisexuals to like come out here and tell us why they're, and we'll read it on the show. Yeah, we will. We'll follow up.

Steph: 24:04

Yeah, we won't, we won't, we won't state it, we won't tell your name.

Shellbz: 24:08

Yeah, unless you want us to, if you don't, make sure you put that in there, because it's good. Sometimes, Shelby doesn't think things through and I'm just going to read shit.

Steph: 24:16

Yeah, that's fair, just in case, I like that yeah, should we leave off on bisexuals, the mystery, the mystery of the bisexual, maybe we'll learn something. Hmm, do they exist? I don't think so, but write us.

Shellbz: 24:33

It's kind of like bigfoot heard about it don't believe it, never really seen it all right, all right, we're done okay bitch, I fucking love you bitch, I fucking love you.

Steph: 24:45

Bitch, I fucking love you Fuck.

Shellbz: 24:48

I hope you leave that in, or at least put it at the end. I love it so much. I wonder if people actually listen through all of that.

Steph: 24:54

I don't know we should tell them that there's like a fucking oh, there's bloopers at the end. There's bloopers. Yeah, I no, I tried to put them like very close to, like, the ending of the.

Shellbz: 25:04

We should also consider putting a what the fuck is that called when you put it at the beginning, where you say, like this is just our opinions, none of this is fact, like whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah, probably should do that too.

Steph: 25:17

Okay, we are going to cut it off right there, but don't worry, part two is coming very, very soon, we promise. But in the meantime, if you could head on over to our website, lizcommunicatecom, join our discord and that way you can chat with us in real time, you can send us an email, you can follow us on our socials and please don't forget to like, follow, share on whatever app you're currently using. Also, if we're not on your favorite player, please let us know so we can fix that. I want to thank you guys so much for listening. There's just one more thing.

Shellbz: 25:54

I'm Shelby and this is Steph Bitch. I love you. I love you too.

Steph: 26:04

Aww, exactly Like. That's just. That's exactly how it is. That's how it's going to be Like take it or leave it, your choice. Watch how you can do that. That's so tiny. Okay've been doing this since 14.

Shellbz: 26:20

Okay. Well, how long have you been going for? I don't even know. Can you see it? Okay, so about an hour. Yeah, that's not too bad, it's good. We will probably cut them down to 20, 30 minutes, great.

Steph: 26:31

Yep, and then I'll cut some shit on the end. Perfect, yeah, f, I caught some shit, oh man, perfect, yeah, flippers.

Shellbz: 26:36

Yeah, did you feel the flippers? I did too. Quite a lot actually. They're a good time, yeah, yeah.

Steph: 26:49

I actually have to turn off that fucking thing. I forgot about that. Otherwise we're going to have terrible sounds. That fucking the, the, the, the, the Jolly. Oh, I hope you put that in JD, man, jd, it's my first time.

Shellbz: 27:06

Just fucking crazy. I don't want that. He's trashed Personal opinion. Only Don't come back, not you Listeners. Okay, I hope not, just in case you can't do that I agree.

Steph: 27:26

Did you hear Trump might be dead, what I hope. So what? Yeah, I will probably share it. No, there's no way you could be on stage right now and Trump is dead. So well, you gotta make sure, like taking things on the go first, he's not dead, but he's definitely near death. So Like magically or what? Yeah? Yeah, he's got kidney failure. His ankles are swollen up, like to the point of fucking knocking Whoa, which means the couch fucker would be our president. So that's just a negative Altogether. There's no winning. No, there really isn't. It's like a half a win. It's not even half a win. Jv Dance is just way worse. Well, not sure, but Still Not sure, but Still cute.

Shellbz: 28:25

Yeah, that's what happened to you. Is that the one you were talking about, lesley and Kirsten, are so cute.

Steph: 28:31

They're so terrible. Kelly and I did all of them, but they're not really my type of people. Oh, but do you have anything you want to talk about? Kelly and I did all of them, but they're not in the description. Oh, okay, but do you have anything you want to talk about? Yeah, yeah, I love the classic, does it? Thank you so much. I've got to have a mic. We're so good. No, it's okay. No, I think we're actually good. A lot, I know. No, I think we're actually good. I don't understand that. Like, what is your fucking problem? I was at a wedding, the venue or whatever.

Shellbz: 29:17

I was walking into the bathroom and this woman goes um, this is the women's bathroom and door kind music, and slammed the door in my face and I was like, well, that sucked and I was going to just ignore it. But at that time in my life I was drinking, so I didn't ignore it and I went and got in this woman's face. I don't think I would have ignored it. Yeah, I don't think that would have been worth it.

Steph: 29:36

Yeah, I don't feel that way, but it felt awful.

Shellbz: 29:38

You know, Like what purpose does anybody have you in that shit Other than to harm somebody? Yeah, I mean, that's it. That's the only reason is just to be an asshole.

Steph: 29:48

Like, who cares? Who gives a shit? What bathroom is? I just had to pee. Okay, I'm not here to like look at you.

Shellbz: 29:53

They're like look at you, believe me.

Steph: 29:55

I've never, ever, ever, and I throw this out a lot, but like I do, I use the men's bathroom whenever that women's line is too long, like I don't give a shit, it's just a fucking bathroom. Never had a problem.