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• Steph & Shellbz • Season 1 • Episode 10

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What happens when your identity clashes with your partner's? Steph and Shellby dive deep into this question as they explore the complexities of dating within the queer community. Steph shares her personal struggle of feeling erased while dating a trans man who wanted to present as completely straight to the world. "I felt like a faker all the time," she reveals, capturing the emotional toll of suppressing one's authentic self for another's comfort.

The conversation shifts to the absurdity of bathroom politics, where both hosts share stories of being confronted simply for entering the "wrong" restroom based on their appearance. "People are so concerned about what's in our pants. It's ridiculous," they agree, highlighting how arbitrary gender policing affects daily life for many in the LGBTQ+ community. Their advocacy for gender-neutral bathrooms comes from practical experience rather than political ideology—a refreshing perspective in today's heated climate.

Trust and independence in relationships take center stage when discussing Pride events. Would they be okay with their partners attending without them? The amusing anecdote about not even wanting to be left behind for a quick trip to buy lettuce ("You're not going without me!") reveals how deeply intertwined their relationships are with their identities. Through humor and vulnerability, Steph and Shellby create a space where difficult conversations become accessible and where listeners might recognize their own experiences or gain new understanding of others'. Join their Discord community to continue the conversation, email your thoughts to queers@lezcommunicate.com, and don't forget to follow wherever you get your podcasts!

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Steph:

Welcome to let's Communicate, the podcast where queerness meets chaos, honesty meets hilarity and nothing is off limits. I'm your host, Steph, and I'm here with my bestie, Shelby, and we are diving headfirst into relationships, hot takes and all the things we definitely shouldn't be saying out loud. So grab your Red Bull or your cocktail and let's communicate, All right? Okay, here we go. What's this one? I don't know. Shelby, Is it still gay if you date a trans man?

Shellbz:

I'm a trans man.

Steph:

Would you be with a trans man? Would you be with a trans woman?

Shellbz:

I feel like I would be open to whatever, as long as the connection was good, okay, and obviously sexual attraction, you know Right.

Steph:

Okay, I have a deeper question and.

Shellbz:

I might cut this out, but I'm just telling you Okay, I'm ready.

Steph:

Okay. So trans woman Yep, still has a pecker. Okay, so trans woman Yep, still has a pecker. Okay. Okay, are you okay with that? That's a good question. Yeah, I don't know, I mean.

Shellbz:

I guess it would probably truthfully depend on the type of connection you had. I don't know. I'd like to say that it's probably not something that I would do, but also I don't know. I'm not going to say that I wouldn't because I don't know you wouldn't say that you wouldn't, because you're unsure on how it would go Well again. I think it would just kind of depend on the connection and the attraction as a whole.

Steph:

You know, obviously I dated a trans man. I don't know if I would do trans man Mm. Hmm, I don't know if I would do it again. No, but I think that that might be spoiled too, because I can't like pretend that I'm straight.

Shellbz:

I can't do it, so that just answered the question on your side. It's not gay if you did a trans man because they identify as a male, which would make you a straight couple, right.

Steph:

or just because it's part of the lgbt community doesn't mean that it's gay and it depends, well, it depends on, like, if, if they are, if yeah, I mean yes, if they want me to identify as straight and they want me to like present as a straight person. I don't think I can no that's fair, that's fair. Absolutely not. I did it for a very long time and it wrecked me.

Shellbz:

I think that that's probably something that would be easier to answer Asking a trans man rather than like me. You know what I mean, because in my opinion it would probably depend on the trans man and what he wanted to identify as like with their person. You know what I mean. So I can't speak on that being non-binary like. It's kind of a give and take sometimes, because when Chelsea and I go out out there's people that think that we're a straight couple all the time. Um, outside perspective is pretty like evident that somebody would think that um, but it also doesn't bother me that they do like. It doesn't offend me or upset me. It doesn't upset her as far as I know, but so I don't really know yeah, but like so it's so, it's it.

Shellbz:

I would consider us still gay, you know, right. But I'm also not a trans man, yes, so it's hard for me to answer the question any further than my own experience and then that's like a good like, that's, that's good, like I love that answer.

Steph:

But like, from from my perspective on, like I know that I had my identity like taken away from me and like I had it completely like stripped of me and I had to like, from from my experience dating a trans man, I had to completely, like, you know, change social media like, remove pictures, like do all these things, because he was very, very specific. He wanted to fit into like a very specific, like mold, right, oh, sure, did not want anyone to know any anything of that, sure. So yeah, from my experience, what I felt was just like a complete like whitewashing of everything of who I was like, just just everything. It was awful for me. It was terrible because it was like okay, well, now I have to fit into this entirely new group that I hadn't had any experience with before and it sucked it was awful.

Steph:

It was terrible and no, I would never do it again. But I don't think I would mind if someone made the assumption and I didn't have, to, like, say anything different than that. Sure.

Shellbz:

If.

Steph:

I never had to like explain anything.

Shellbz:

If you didn't have to explain the situation.

Steph:

Exactly which?

Shellbz:

nobody should have to ever Just take it at face value. Unless you know, somebody wants you to know and understand. Exactly Like when we were at Pride. I went with chelsea to the bathroom, held her stuff, whatever, and somebody's like your boyfriend is so sweet and she responded with yeah, she's the best that was it, and I was like I didn't hate that, didn't hate that at all.

Shellbz:

Yeah, I was okay with that. So I think it's especially based on your experience. I truly think it would probably depend on the guy himself and how he felt comfortable presenting Exactly, and whether it's gay or whatever, because, like I said, I still consider Chelsea and I gay, like that's just what it is. Like that's just what it is.

Steph:

Well, we were at Pride. Well, obviously we were at Pride with you guys, but when we were there, like I had this really great friend that you know, we're on the same committees together and everything I made the assumption, through my gaydar you know, that she was a lesbian, right, and we found out, no, she in fact is not a lesbian. So it like blew my fucking mind. I'm like what the?

Shellbz:

gaydar is broken.

Steph:

Exactly.

Shellbz:

That's exactly how I felt at that point and you had to question everything now.

Steph:

I'm like, oh shit, okay Okay, but there's like so many different levels now. There's so many different levels of like queer and gay and like all of these things, and like they mean different things to like every single person that goes in here, right? So I don't know, like being being a lesbian, being gay, like that is a major part of like what I identify as now, and so like when I had to, you know, for that extended period of time when I had to pretend to be something else, I just felt like a, like a faker. I felt terrible all the time. I'm like, oh yeah, you know, I had people like at work talking to me, like all these straight people all of a sudden coming up to me and talking to me about like penis sizes and like all this shit and I'm like I hate it here, I want to go home.

Steph:

I don't want to answer these questions, but I also can't say anything to the contrary of it because then I would be disrespecting someone else and it's like yeah, I don't want to live in this land, yeah exactly so. I just felt all the time that I was just like that. I was a huge faker, I couldn't do it.

Shellbz:

I couldn't, I couldn't be that person, and maybe some people are OK with that. You know, maybe some people like maybe that you know that guy's partner or potential partners is going to be somebody. That also doesn't want anybody to know and they're totally comfortable with that.

Steph:

Yeah, and that's you know, that's fair, that's fine. But I mean he always used to come at me with the when I would talk about like how uncomfortable I was with this. He would always come at me like isn't it so nice to finally like fit in? No, I don't like it. No, it's not. I don't want to be in this land. Like no, I'm not fitting in. I'm just like pretending to be something to make other people like accept me more.

Steph:

I like who the fuck cares. I don't want to be accepted. I just want to be who I am.

Shellbz:

So would you feel would not like that had it been like, yeah, this is, this is my partner, but also not like we're a straight couple. You know, like would it have been easier to be like we're a queer couple? Yes, yeah, okay, see, like, like you had said, there's so many terms now there's a giant umbrella that we all kind of fall under with different things, which is totally great and fine. I'm still learning all of the time Same, but it's much easier to identify as queer, because it feels weird to say lesbian, not because I don't entirely like feel like I fit into that, but being non-binary, it feels wrong to say it.

Steph:

No, I get what I mean I do.

Shellbz:

I completely understand so queer is just a more broad term for me.

Steph:

Which is why our email is queers, yes, but that's also why it says lesbian, right here.

Shellbz:

I'm here for all of it. Like people that I don't feel like explaining anything to, it's easier to identify as lesbian than it is to say oh yeah, I'm queer. I don't want to answer all the questions. No, depends on who you are.

Steph:

Like you, can't answer all the questions no, depends on who you are well, but like you can't answer all the questions, no, I've tried. It's just, it's impossible like.

Shellbz:

Well, and like you said, everybody has a different view on what those terms mean for them, exactly which. There's nothing wrong with that either, nope, but it makes it harder to explain to somebody that's not in that.

Steph:

That's not in that.

Shellbz:

Yeah, exactly yeah, exactly right. Yeah, exactly right. No.

Steph:

I get it, I completely understand and it you're exactly right. It is very, very difficult to explain to someone who is not within that. Lgbtq plus like area like what the hell is going on, because sometimes I don't know what the fuck is going on either. I'm just like I don't know and like you're going to have to ask them because I have no idea.

Shellbz:

And then in some cases I've told Chelsea I'm just like I don't know, and you're going to have to ask them because I have no idea. And then in some cases I've told Chelsea I'm like if somebody thinks that I'm your husband or your boyfriend or whatever, I'm just going to roll with that and that's fine. I don't care, that's totally fine, because I don't hate the terminology. It doesn't bother me. Either one is fine. But I'm also not going to sit here and be like no, no, no, this is how it is, because that's I don't need to do that. Nobody needs to explain themselves. But when you have just a general term, it just makes it so much easier it really does.

Steph:

It does make it easier and I always I felt like I always felt very I don't know if like bad is the right term or not, but like I know that like he was very like because we started dating when you know, know he was a she, yeah, and then, you know, transitioned during that, during that relationship. So I always felt like very protective of that.

Steph:

So yeah, I'm always very concerned about, like are my boobs showing? Is this showing? Is this showing? I don't think, like I don't think you realize so much that, like people don't pay any attention to that. All they see is what you're presenting to them at that exact time. So it was just always very, it was very difficult for me in that relationship just because people would come up to me, because, like all of a sudden, I had these straight women coming to me like talking to me about penis sizes or about this or about that, and I had no experience with that, none you couldn't even have an input and you felt super out of place, I'm sure absolutely out of place.

Steph:

And then people turn to you and just ask these questions and I'm like, okay, well, now I'm a liar, like I have I. What am I supposed to do? Am I supposed to like stay over here? Am I supposed to like fake it over here like I have no fucking?

Shellbz:

idea what I'm doing anymore. That would be hard for you anybody. I feel you had mentioned that. Like he may not have recognized that other people don't notice those things and I just wanted to touch on that. That's so true, but, like the, it took me forever to take my shirt off Forever and people really don't care. And if people are looking at you close enough to care, it's probably not because they care about your gender.

Shellbz:

No, you know, and like, I tattooed my scars mostly for safety, mm hmm, Just because of the way the government's been and the way people are and the way the hate is, and just I just didn't want to deal with that. I didn't want to put my family in any position by that noticeable scarring on my chest. But it still took me forever because even before my tattoos I was like I don't want to take it off, I don't want somebody to notice and I don't want somebody to be confused and I don't want like. And then I was like I need to not fucking care. So I just did it, took my shirt off and not a single fucking person gave two shits. They didn't look at me weird. They just kind of barely acknowledged my existence.

Steph:

So just like normal, yeah, so, yeah, that and that's, that's very accurate, and I understand how it comes from the opposite side of that. You're constantly living in this worry, this concern, trying to fit into this thing that you don't feel like you completely fit into at that point in time time. But yeah, I tried to explain that to him like several different times. Like no one sees that, no one can see it, no one knows anything, no one cares.

Shellbz:

And I can't speak on behalf of anyone but myself and obviously I'm not a transitioning male at all, so I can't completely see it from that point of view. But I also know how it feels to not want anybody to know or to judge you or say shitty things when you're out in public or worry about what bathroom you're using, just because they see something just barely out of the norm. Um, but even now, like my chest isn't flat, I have, I. I have, like man titties. Ok, I hate it, all right, but it's still better than what it ever was before.

Shellbz:

But I still see occasionally the same person in the mirror, once in a while, pre-surgery, and I'm like, ah, fuck, and I panic and I have weird anxiety about it. And which has gotten a lot better since I've been with Chelsea actually she loves my man titties. You don't have to cut that out. You do not have man titties, jesus Christ, she tells me the same thing. But like in my head, I do, you know. So I suppose, like in, you know this, the guy that you dated, he probably sees pre-transitioning, you know. So I can understand why you wouldn't want anybody to know when you're trying to be your own person and not who you were before Exactly. So I mean I get it, but I I can imagine that that would have been awful for you.

Steph:

Right, it was awful for me, but I, at the same time, like couldn't. I didn't feel like there was anything that I could do at that point because, no matter how uncomfortable I was, I still felt like, okay, well, I have this a lot easier than he does. Sure, like in this, in this relationship, like I have this a hell of a lot easier, I am. I couldn't even imagine going through that. I couldn't even imagine like having to experience that or having to feel those feelings or having to. You know, all I felt like during that point in time was that I just needed to do whatever I could at that point to make him feel comfortable, to make him feel safe, secure, whatever that was, whatever that was. And we did, we did, we did everything possible to make him feel that way. You know, I don't know what bathroom you use, but going into the bathroom is the same type of situation. The bathroom sucks. It sucks for Kelly too. It's just bullshit.

Shellbz:

People just worry so much about what's in our fucking pants. It's ridiculous, fuck. Who cares? It drives me insane, me. Who the fuck cares? I don't use the men's room. Uh, primarily, this is from my own experience. Um, I will always choose the bear. Okay, every time I've had my own experiences and I would like to avoid that from ever happening. Um, that doesn't mean that it's like that for everybody. That's in like my position, you know. Um, but they're also gross, they're disgusting, so I'd fair. I try to use family restrooms or gender neutral.

Steph:

Um, if I'm not just talk about how all bathrooms would be generally.

Shellbz:

What the fuck I wish that a lot of places have them now yeah or like single stalls or whatever.

Shellbz:

Um, if I'm with ch Chelsea, I'll go in with her. Yeah, if I have my kiddos, I will go into the women's bathroom because it's easier, and then I'm not really worried about me. I'm more concerned about them. Right, but I have definitely had my fair share of shitty people when it comes to the bathrooms. So I avoid them like the plague. But I definitely don't use the men's, unless it's a single stall, because I've done that before and I don't have to worry about it. But yeah, people are so fucking concerned about what's in our pants. It is ridiculous.

Steph:

Well, and it just blows my mind too, Like I. So I lost all my hair and when my hair was growing back, it was very short. So, yeah, I had this experience like going into the women's bathroom and you know, I got some. I got titties. Like what the fuck, You're going to come at me right now? I could not believe the amount of people that are going to come at you because you have short hair and are entering a woman's bathroom Like, are you fucking kidding me right now? You want to see my junk? Okay?

Shellbz:

Do you you want me to drop my drawer? I have no problem doing it, then you'll feel like a real jackass. I can read yeah, like that's another thing. They either think, they must think you're stupid also, and you're illiterate.

Steph:

Yeah, because you can't read the fucking signs.

Shellbz:

Yeah that also have pictures, so people are just ignorant as fuck. Yes, that's what it boils down to but ke. Kelly has issues too.

Steph:

Mm-hmm. Yeah, she's had issues going into the women's business.

Shellbz:

That is wild to me. Yeah, it's crazy. That just tells you how little people pay attention. They don't care.

Steph:

All they care about is, like, how short your hair is. Yep, that's it.

Shellbz:

That's the only thing they look at is okay, and if you're not wearing tight fitting clothes, which is insane, because, even like when Kelly wears a T-shirt, you can tell that she's a woman, absolutely, and she has very feminine features. No, the only thing that I think, people.

Steph:

The only thing I think they care about, the only thing I think they look at, is the length of your hair. That's it. Which is crazy to me. It's just absolutely fucking nuts Like. Are you fucking kidding me right now? Right, I will punch you in your fucking face. You want to go? Oh my God, and the amount of times that I have used the men's bathroom because the men's line is you know it's always shorter.

Steph:

Yeah, men don't give a shit. No, they don. Men don't give a shit, they don't care, they're just like oh, this one, yeah they're like yeah hurry it up. Like why are women so sad? Why are where specific kind of women so so incensed by this? Like I don't know, it drives me nuts. Like oh, okay, karen, like let's do it let's go.

Shellbz:

I've had a bathroom door slammed in my face actually I don't understand that like what is your fucking problem?

Shellbz:

I was so I was at a wedding and the venue or whatever. So I was walking into the bathroom and this woman goes um this is the women's bathroom and your kind isn't welcome here and slammed the door in my face and I was like, well, that sucked. I was going to just ignore it. But I at that time in my life I was drinking, that's fair. So I didn't ignore it and I went and got in this woman's face.

Steph:

I don't think I would have ignored it. Yeah, no, feel bad about that.

Shellbz:

But it felt awful, you know, and like what purpose does anybody have doing that kind of shit other than to hurt somebody?

Steph:

anybody have doing that kind of shit other than to hurt somebody. Dick, yeah, I mean, that's it. That's, that's. The only reason is just to be an asshole like who cares, who gives a shit what bathroom I?

Shellbz:

just had to pee.

Steph:

Okay, I'm not here to like look at you, believe me I've never, ever, ever and I like. I throw this out a lot, but, like I do, I use the men's bathroom whenever that woman's line is too long, like I don't give a shit.

Shellbz:

It's just a fucking bathroom.

Steph:

Never had a problem, Like apparently men just don't give a shit.

Shellbz:

I don't think so either, most of the time.

Steph:

I don't know what it is about. Like straight cis women that have like such an issue like clarifying what fucking gender. Like really Really bitch. Like.

Shellbz:

Yeah, and actually clarifying what fucking gender, like really, really bitch, like yeah, and actually it's always been women that I've ever been like confronted by even like walking into a restroom. It's always been a woman that is like, hey, that's the wrong one, uh, no, I can read, thank you yeah, thanks for I appreciate you looking out for me okay but but um, yeah, it's.

Shellbz:

It's wild, but you know, I got into an argument with somebody about gender neutral bathrooms just because I think that is, or like the family bathrooms, which is also a gender neutral bathroom. It just says family bathroom on it and that is because it is large enough to fit a family in it. Ok, so are gender neutral bathrooms, yes. So I don't get why it's an issue. They just see gender neutral and they fucking freak out Right. It has nothing to do with the trans community whatsoever. No, it just makes it easier on everybody, on everyone literally everyone, everyone involved.

Steph:

Like just make them all, just make it a fucking bathroom. Yeah, one bathroom, jesus, and they're separate bathrooms in our own fucking houses, like just make it a fucking bathroom.

Shellbz:

That was the thing in your own fucking house. You have gender neutral bathrooms. They just don't have a fucking sign on the door, right? Yes, well, I don't have gender neutral bathrooms in my house. Bitch, yes, you do. Yeah, yeah, does your wife go in there and piss in there? And then, when you wake up in the middle of the night, do you walk in there and take a piss? My guy, weird, crazy, so strange, so crazy.

Steph:

You should have your own.

Shellbz:

That's what I think like you quite literally put the, the word gender on something, oh, and people like freak out. Yeah, I don't know. I don't understand it, and maybe that's just because I don't have to you know what I don't have to but it's just irritating as fuck no, I think it's just a.

Steph:

I think honestly, I think it's just another like fucking thing that like people can pull at and like oh yeah, just to find a fucking reason to bitch and complain and hate somebody and fucking that's it. That's exactly it. All they want to do is find somebody else that they can hate yeah, like okay fucking wild behavior I'm not for it, I fucking I'm.

Steph:

I'm pissed off the state of iowa right now. So, whatever, whatever, let's do a fucking happy card, another card, this better be happy, oh no, okay. So this one says um, are you okay with your partner going to a big pride event without you?

Shellbz:

hey, did you want me to say why? Yeah, um, because I'm secure enough with myself. Like I'm not trying to be a conceited asshole, but I know I'm attractive. Yeah, okay, I also know that I'm. I'm pretty funny for the most part. Not all the time somebody will disagree with that statement, but I know how to make. I know how to make her laugh, I know how to comfort her and I've loved her in a way that nobody else has. So, like I've told her. I was like, if you, you know, somebody hits on you, fucking, whatever, I'll see you later. Like, I know you're coming home to me, it's fine and I know that's probably sound. That probably makes me sound like such a dick. The only reason that I would be upset is if she didn't invite me at all. But if, if I just couldn't go or like had to work, or like somebody to watch the kids, and she wanted to go with friends, fucking have at it, go do what you want to do.

Steph:

I think I would probably be jealous because, like why can't I go? Why am I not going?

Shellbz:

I don't understand what the scenario even is. Exactly, you're not going without me anywhere.

Steph:

Yeah, like, why? Why Like? Ok, so fun fact. So we needed lettuce to make BLTs, right, and that was what Yesterday morning. Whatever we're going to make BLTs, we're going to do it for lunch, right, so sweet, so nice, whatever. Start making the bacon, get the bacon like mostly cooked. Realize we have no fucking lettuce and I'm like we're going to door dash it. Right, we're going to door dash some fucking lettuce. Kelly's like we are not door dashing, that's not going to happen.

Shellbz:

We'll just go get it.

Steph:

Yeah, yeah. She's like with fucking dollar generals right down the street. She's like I'm going to run down there and get some. I'm like you're not fucking going without me. Why can I not come? I want to come too.

Shellbz:

I don't understand you. You didn't invite me to go. Yeah, exactly what is this picture?

Steph:

I just kept like turning my head like you want to go. I'm like, yeah, I want to go. I don't know why it took you so long to ask yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going with you. See how that works, I want to go with you.

Shellbz:

We are going to get lettuce. I'm glad that you. It was very cute that you thought you were going to though the bacon's fine, we're gonna go, we'll be back it'll be quicker. Yeah, we have four eyes on it instead of two.

Steph:

Okay, like you want to go. You want to go to some big pride event or whatever. I'm going with you, bitch, like we're going we're going together and like I want to go too. But yeah, I guess like if it was one of those situations where I could not attend for some reason. I can't fucking possibly fathom what that reason could possibly be.

Steph:

But if the reason were to come about correct if it came about, which it never will, but it's not going to ever. If it came about, yes, I'd be okay with her going just by herself.

Shellbz:

She didn't like saying that no I did not.

Steph:

No, no, I don't. I don't like saying that. But I without me, I would be for some fucking reason that I'm not sure of exactly um, that's all I'm saying I'd be fine.

Shellbz:

And the thing is is like it's not because I'm worried about other people hitting on her or whatever. I tell her all the time first of all, yeah, I'm kind of into that shit.

Steph:

Okay, yeah, go ahead, yeah, yeah I know she's very good looking, it's just like that chick, like that was hitting on kelly, like I wanted to throw, punch her, but at the same time I was like I get it yeah I understand, I get it, you like it.

Shellbz:

You can't have it, so bad so sad.

Steph:

Yeah, it's okay, you do your thing, you try that, you try. Yeah, it's not gonna happen.

Shellbz:

If you didn't slightly succeed, I will murder you both of you anyway, but yeah, no, and it's really just because I'm, I want her to also know that she can be her own person and go do shit, right, like if she just wanted to go with her friends and she just told me that my feelings wouldn't be hurt, you know, because I need her to do those things too right, you just call me and be like hey stuff, we going to roll up on this pride event.

Steph:

We're going to stay on the deal.

Shellbz:

She decided she was going to go somewhere without me, and I'm not sure why yet. Yeah, yeah, but we're going to go figure it out and I know she's going to listen to this and she's going to fucking roll her eyes so hard and probably what came out of her mouth as she heard it was you're so fucking stupid.

Steph:

I can hear it now, it's fine, it's fine. My favorite part about like the most recent episodes that are getting released right now is that Kelly has not heard them. So when she listens to them, she like is laughing constantly. I'm like that's right, baby, that's right.

Shellbz:

Yeahelsea said that she actually like watched the clips also. I was like, oh, you actually watched the video. And she's like, well, yeah, I was like, oh, okay. Well, first of all I didn't even know spotify had the video capability until our pod came out. I had no fucking idea, not a clue I told you I know that's wild by the way, spotify way more popular.

Steph:

I'm not upset about that at all. Yeah, I know, I, you, I know that's wild. By the way, spotify way more popular. I'm not upset about that at all. Yeah, I know, I know, I know it's good for it it's good. I keep adding, like the new things we have to do, fucking promo too like yes, we gotta.

Shellbz:

We gotta get him a promo.

Steph:

He has so many listeners I know, I looked at it. It just made me feel like overwhelmed.

Shellbz:

Yeah, I know check out murder and such podcast right hunter's great.

Steph:

I already added it to our like recommended pod. He did awesome. It's so fucking good though. I know I know I've listened to like the first season so far so he's so good but there's so many fucking seasons yeah, he's got a lot of episodes out. Anyways, yes, good, good, fucking. Yeah, I sent, I sent. Well, I'm trying to get Chelsea on my, on my Snapstreak things. Oh yeah, she can't get down with sending me a fucking picture. So it's like we have three right now.

Shellbz:

Harasser.

Steph:

Bitch hold on Harasser.

Shellbz:

Because, like, because we're together so much. The other morning I woke up and I took a picture of like the plant or whatever. And she's like what the fuck? I was like I didn't want our street today. I was like and then she put her phone on. I'm like what are you doing? I need you to pick it back up and take a picture of the fucking plant. I don't care. Look at the ceiling, does it matter?

Steph:

Our streets must stay.

Shellbz:

That ain't happening again.

Steph:

Okay, that is a wrap for this episode of Liz Communicate. We want to remind you to visit our website at lizcommunicatecom. From there, you can join our Discord and you can chat with us in real time. Send us an email at queers. At lizcommunicatecom, you can follow our social media sites. Visit our store. Don't forget to like, follow, share on whatever app you're currently using. It really helps us out. Thank you all so much for listening. Just one more thing we gotta do I'm shelby and this is steph bitch.

Shellbz:

I love you. How are?

Steph:

you dating someone that's in the closet? You know how does that happen. I was Like what are you going like if you're dating? Are you going to like their family and you're just like their friend? Like is that what's happening.

Shellbz:

So when I was seeing a woman who I look back at this now and it makes me feel like a giant piece of shit. But she was married and we were sleeping together anywhere we could meet up and nobody could see, nobody could know, but like over the phone, it was an emotional connection and it felt like dating. But I was also really young, so it definitely wasn't dating. But there was no going on dates, that wasn't a thing, it was just hooking up. That's really all it was, with feelings involved that nobody could fucking know about and, like I said, I feel very fucking bad about it. Now we don't need to do stupid shit. Yeah, we all do stupid shit.

Shellbz:

But I have definitely fooled around with a handful of women that are quote-unquote in the closet, but I don't think it would ever be considered dating. Yeah, we can understand a little better. We're not saying it's not okay, we're saying we don't understand it's different. Yeah, don't get it, but I would like to hear it from somebody.

Steph:

Oh yeah, oh yeah. I would love to hear this from somebody and not from. I have heard from several of my friends that now say they're bisexual, they want to have sex with women. But I don't get that, like I don't get that you just want to have sex with women so you can say that you have sex with women. Maybe for some that's true, maybe. But I think once you have sex with women like you're a lesbian, now Not going back.

Shellbz:

Like what are you gonna go back to? Like it's gotta be way better. It'd be interesting to hear from somebody, though, to give their actual, like life perspective.

Steph:

Yeah, unless you want to if you don't, yeah, we won't date it. We won't tell you yeah, unless you want to. If you don't, make sure you put that in the comments. Sometimes Shelby doesn't think things through and I'm just going to read shit. That's fair, just in case. Play that vlog, kelly. Well, I think they've got to be done. Heard on them, don't they? They absolutely have, they are just trainers. Well, it's because've got to be done, hurt or something they absolutely have. They are just trainers. Well, it's kind of like taking a walk.

Shellbz:

Like what the fuck we didn't walk before? What are you doing? We just had backyard time.

Steph:

We had backyard time and we had tree time. Now we have walk time. So let's go for a walk every day. They're ready for it. They do, they do.

Shellbz:

They may not for it. They do, they do. They get to see all the streets. They may not love it. It's cold. They haven't experienced a cold yet. They're never going to experience a cold.

Steph:

They get to stay here too. We were just talking about what we're still doing Somewhere other than Iowa. Yeah, yeah, we all have to stay with the fucking Czechoslovakians. Yeah, there's some.

Shellbz:

Yeah, I mean I agree. Did you hear Trump might be dead? What? What? Yeah, we probably should. Justin Cain, he's going to get offended. I hope they do get offended. People that are offended will pay more attention than people that are offended. You are not fucking right. I offended. I hope they do get offended. People that are offended will pay more attention than people that like it. You are not fucking right. I know. I know It'll be more popular if people hate it than if they like it. You're not fucking right. Go ahead and fucking hate it. I hope they all hate it. Carry on, alright, give me some hate comments. Try to get them back, I'm sure.

Steph:

I'm true I don't know like obviously I think everyone should. If you are a fucking fellow princess, I've never ditched that. Honestly, like get down there and do some work. Like don't come at me with this fucking oh yeah, no, I'm just scared to eat the pussy no, eat some pussy and it tastes delicious. Like, don't come at me with this fucking. Oh yeah, no, I'm just here to eat the pussy. No, eat some pussy and taste delicious.

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